[00:00:04.839] Thank you again, everyone for being here today. [00:00:07.309] So our session today is going to be [00:00:09.349] learning from school power users. We've [00:00:11.470] got three power users on the line today and [00:00:13.659] we're taking a look at the best practices [00:00:15.710] for utilizing Gale Ebooks. [00:00:18.620] And I've got a short agenda here. But again, [00:00:20.850] I want to highlight that this is a very informal [00:00:22.949] session. We want to really focus on getting your [00:00:25.089] questions answered. So while we [00:00:27.109] have a lot of information, we want to give you and a lot [00:00:29.239] of information that we actually already have prepared. [00:00:31.679] Um We definitely want to make sure we had everything [00:00:33.848] you guys want to know as well, but uh a brief [00:00:36.228] agenda here. So first of course, I want to introduce [00:00:38.728] our esteemed panelists today. [00:00:41.259] Um After that, I'm going to do a very, very [00:00:43.310] quick uh Gale ebooks overview. [00:00:45.348] Just so everyone is on the same page with what [00:00:47.380] Gale Ebooks is [00:00:48.959] after that, we're really going to dive into the discussion [00:00:51.439] and that's going to be the bulk of our session today [00:00:53.630] is just talking some learning some new [00:00:55.740] things that we can start implementing in our own learning communities. [00:00:58.700] And then the very end of the session, I do have [00:01:00.740] some contact information and some support [00:01:02.829] information. So if you need a little bit more [00:01:05.109] information, once we're done, you have [00:01:07.150] some people to, to reach out to for that. [00:01:11.338] So let's go ahead and get started here. So first [00:01:13.599] off, I'll introduce myself. My name is Amber [00:01:15.689] Winters. I'm one of the senior training [00:01:17.750] consultants here with Gale and I'm kind of [00:01:19.778] going to be your host for the day. Uh Not [00:01:22.129] giving as much information as our panelists, [00:01:24.338] but you'll be hearing me talk a fair amount. [00:01:26.650] Uh But also on the line today, we have uh Brett [00:01:29.138] Daggs, Christy James, Andani [00:01:31.230] Joyce joining us and I'm going to let each of them introduce [00:01:33.650] themselves on their own. So, Brett, [00:01:35.778] you are first here on my screen. So if you'd like [00:01:37.814] to just, um, let us know your role [00:01:39.924] a little bit about your school and just a little [00:01:41.933] bit about your collection just very briefly [00:01:44.144] and we'll go into more depth a little bit later. [00:01:46.635] Sure. Uh So Brett Daggs, I teach [00:01:48.805] at Menden High School, which is a suburb of [00:01:50.924] Rochester, New York. [00:01:52.448] And I've been here about eight years, about 18 years [00:01:54.510] in this profession, all at the secondary level. [00:01:57.198] Uh Our high school, high performing [00:01:59.269] district, we have about 1000 kids in this [00:02:01.430] high school. There is a sister high school [00:02:03.448] across town, so a pretty big uh district, [00:02:06.239] uh lot of Gale products. I've been a fan [00:02:08.429] of gale since I started in this [00:02:10.500] career and, you know, across the curriculum [00:02:12.849] really. Um, we get to push [00:02:14.960] into a lot of classrooms and, uh, well, [00:02:17.080] I'll give into the specifics about the utilization [00:02:19.159] of some of the ebooks in particular. A little bit [00:02:21.278] later on. [00:02:23.349] Great. Thanks, Brett Christy. You're next [00:02:25.460] in line here. [00:02:27.429] Good afternoon, everyone. I'm Christy [00:02:29.538] James at a library media services coordinator [00:02:31.788] for Charleston County school district in [00:02:33.849] Charleston, South Carolina. [00:02:35.580] We're a district with about 50,000 [00:02:37.800] students. We've got 80 schools [00:02:40.368] um including some of our charter schools that work [00:02:42.538] closely with us. Um [00:02:44.949] Like Brett, I am a big gale [00:02:46.969] fan. I used Gale databases when [00:02:49.008] I was a teacher when I loved it when [00:02:51.118] I was a librarian and I've been [00:02:53.139] in this district role for the past [00:02:55.240] seven years and gale continues [00:02:57.979] to be really important and valuable [00:03:00.139] to our students and teachers. [00:03:04.069] Thanks Christy and I promise we did not [00:03:06.099] stack the panel with [00:03:07.969] ill enthusiasts. I promise. [00:03:10.919] Um Connie, do you wanna go ahead? [00:03:13.399] Hi, everybody. I'm Connie Joyce. [00:03:15.788] I am the teacher librarian at Rancho Cucamonga [00:03:18.270] High School, which is in Rancho Cucamonga, [00:03:20.778] California. [00:03:22.210] Uh I've been uh TL for, [00:03:25.080] I think this is my 20th year. I've been [00:03:27.379] uh here at this school for 16 [00:03:29.659] years. Uh Our district is [00:03:31.758] a high school district, Chaffee Joint Union High [00:03:33.800] School district uh of about 24,000 [00:03:36.909] students. So we're quite large. [00:03:39.278] Um, I too love gale products. [00:03:41.679] It's the first go to that I use. We have [00:03:43.788] the, uh, many, well, a few of the databases [00:03:46.610] and I love buying the ebooks and [00:03:49.118] thank you for having me. [00:03:51.439] Great, thanks guys. So let [00:03:53.618] me give just a quick overview about Guilty [00:03:55.830] books before we really start talking just because [00:03:58.919] you never know if someone's new to Guilty books. I want [00:04:01.099] to make sure everyone knows what we're talking about. So of [00:04:03.240] course, by the title, you can all assume [00:04:05.500] that Guilty Ebooks are in fact ebooks, but [00:04:07.599] uh we're not just talking about the ebooks [00:04:09.618] strictly. Gil ebooks is also the platform [00:04:11.889] that those ebooks are housed on. So we [00:04:13.939] not only provide you with the, the [00:04:16.000] ebooks themselves, but we also [00:04:18.480] hold them to on a really simple platform that's [00:04:20.569] very similar to other Gill resources. [00:04:22.910] So if you have Gill and context resources [00:04:25.459] or maybe Gill one file resources, [00:04:27.879] we try to keep the platform looking as [00:04:30.160] similar as we possibly can with the different [00:04:32.309] content types. So we do provide [00:04:34.548] you with that as well and the access to these ebooks [00:04:36.778] is unlimited. So it's 24 access, [00:04:38.850] 24 7 access. It [00:04:41.350] is nonfiction ebooks and of course, they're curated [00:04:43.730] specifically for your library and for your learning community. [00:04:46.809] So just so everyone knows little disclaimer. [00:04:49.720] Um A couple of our panelists will be showing their [00:04:51.798] collections today and most likely they're going to look different [00:04:54.040] than yours [00:04:55.040] because of course, they choose different, [00:04:57.139] uh, selections. Of course, if you're a librarian on [00:04:59.149] the line who does your own curation, you [00:05:01.189] already know that. But if we have any educators on the [00:05:03.250] line, most likely your ebook collection [00:05:05.290] is not going to look exactly like theirs. So [00:05:07.319] make sure you take a look at yours once we're done with the session [00:05:09.548] today. Um, but we do have guilty [00:05:11.559] books that cover really every subject [00:05:13.639] area from elementary school all the way [00:05:15.670] up to uh adult education as well [00:05:17.759] as professional development, ebooks and things [00:05:19.778] like that. [00:05:21.389] And in addition to all of the great just [00:05:23.500] text and content available, we include [00:05:25.649] a lot of different tools within the GE [00:05:27.798] ebooks platform that's going to help your students [00:05:30.139] thrive and really kind of dig into the text. [00:05:32.428] So we do include a translation feature. [00:05:34.699] If you have students who need Spanish [00:05:37.259] language or need Arabic or French, we [00:05:39.379] have the ability to translate each of our ebooks. [00:05:41.738] We also have a listen feature highlights [00:05:44.108] and notes that really let your students talk to [00:05:46.125] the text as they move forward in their learning. [00:05:48.733] We have Google and Microsoft integrations as well [00:05:50.934] as integration into learning management systems. [00:05:53.673] And we do have a nice citation gene that [00:05:55.733] generator that's going to support your students [00:05:57.754] as well. And I being a former teacher, [00:06:00.053] I really love the citation generator, especially [00:06:02.423] if you're trying to uh get buy in from your students [00:06:04.613] because they're not building their own anymore. You know, [00:06:06.694] they can just click a button, copy and paste and they're good [00:06:08.774] to go, [00:06:09.564] um, you know, instead of going on Google when they have to [00:06:11.605] Google and they have to figure out exactly what their citations [00:06:14.074] should be. [00:06:15.059] Just little, [00:06:16.358] my little blurb there is, it's, it's a nice way to get by [00:06:18.500] and is to use that citation tool. [00:06:21.338] Does anyone have quick questions just about [00:06:23.608] guilty books just in general before [00:06:25.730] we really get into our discussion here? [00:06:30.678] Ok. We are quiet. So let's [00:06:32.829] go ahead and get going then. So I've [00:06:34.980] pulled out some questions that I wanted [00:06:37.019] to ask our panelists today. [00:06:39.649] But again, as we're going through, if you think of something, [00:06:41.809] we will totally jump off of my script [00:06:43.858] and get to what you want to know. But my [00:06:46.069] first question that I think is really just to set [00:06:48.088] kind of a, a base level here is uh what [00:06:50.709] were your initial goals for your ebooks? So as you [00:06:52.750] were curating your collections, what were [00:06:54.850] you looking for? Were you trying to hit a specific [00:06:57.488] uh age group, a specific department, [00:06:59.660] a specific class even? Um [00:07:02.278] what were your goals while you were starting to look at your ebooks? [00:07:04.649] Brett? I see you're unmuted. So you want to go ahead and [00:07:06.709] take over to be [00:07:08.639] sure. So nothing [00:07:10.769] probably overly strategic early [00:07:12.829] on other than just seeing what, what the benchmark [00:07:15.149] is what are we starting with and rounding [00:07:17.170] out where, I mean, the obvious thing is where [00:07:19.399] all the research needs, particularly for ebooks, [00:07:21.559] reference books is a foundational tool [00:07:23.769] there. And I inherited a very [00:07:25.889] good collection I only added to it over the years. [00:07:27.970] I will say in time permitting, maybe [00:07:30.259] later on, I'll share this [00:07:31.588] uh one strategy [00:07:33.709] right around COVID, right? When [00:07:35.720] social emotional learning was really ramping [00:07:37.790] up. And even before then, [00:07:39.178] um the Cameron's collection is [00:07:41.209] a set of ebooks that we purchase here. I got some grant [00:07:43.428] money to do that [00:07:44.738] and trying to get some traction with that, push it out [00:07:46.899] via a lib guide. Um And [00:07:48.928] actually, can I share the screen now or is that? Ok? [00:07:52.459] Yeah. Feel free. [00:07:55.869] Wal Brett's doing that. Just so everyone's aware, Cameron's [00:07:57.949] collection is our collection of uh social [00:08:00.420] and emotional learning, mental health ebooks. [00:08:03.230] Um I'll try to [00:08:05.319] pull up a bit of information and pop it [00:08:07.350] into the uh the chat for [00:08:09.379] you all. If I can't get it there today, I'll put it [00:08:11.420] in our follow up email if you are interested [00:08:13.559] in that. But it looks like Brett's got his screen [00:08:15.959] shared here. So [00:08:17.649] and so, so I might so we have it [00:08:19.660] both ways. They can obviously get to it through [00:08:21.769] the ebook platform, uh [00:08:24.189] which is one option we could use that way. [00:08:26.420] But the lib guide enabled me to [00:08:29.059] categorize some of these [00:08:31.100] uh a little bit more [00:08:32.695] topically. Right. But either way it gets [00:08:34.835] to the same content and it's [00:08:36.955] nice, you know, when we've been able to introduce this to [00:08:39.075] students doing, uh, we have a number of students who [00:08:41.085] do senior inquiry, uh, topics of their choice [00:08:43.404] and that maybe not surprisingly, a lot of them are [00:08:45.445] touching upon some of these issues here. This [00:08:47.594] is nice content, but in particular [00:08:49.894] I had in mind our, the staff, [00:08:52.224] the, the, so the social workers, school [00:08:54.325] psychologists, people like that, that are having [00:08:56.384] these private meetings with students and families [00:08:58.445] as a way to push this content out to [00:09:00.715] get some [00:09:01.719] um [00:09:02.960] you know, academic content to [00:09:05.080] go along with whatever consultations we're having with the students. [00:09:07.369] So uh that's one per [00:09:09.519] perhaps particular way we've used [00:09:11.719] it in recent years. So I'll go ahead and stop [00:09:13.739] sharing the screen now. [00:09:19.369] Great. Thank you, Brett. Let me share [00:09:21.538] mine again. [00:09:22.840] Um I believe we're going Christy. [00:09:24.950] You're next in line here. We're still following [00:09:27.129] that same [00:09:28.389] pathway. [00:09:30.038] Sure. Um When I came into [00:09:32.798] the district role, um we [00:09:35.038] did have a small collection of Gale [00:09:37.090] ebooks. But my biggest [00:09:39.178] thing when I came in was focusing [00:09:41.558] on the equity across our district. [00:09:43.808] We had very large high schools [00:09:45.908] that had larger budgets and could [00:09:48.019] afford to have a decent print [00:09:50.700] um reference collection. And then [00:09:52.750] we had smaller high schools who [00:09:54.913] it just it was not feasible for them [00:09:57.154] to keep up with quality [00:09:59.465] reference materials in a print [00:10:01.774] format. So I was looking [00:10:04.065] at the equity piece and with [00:10:06.325] these being multiuser ebooks, [00:10:08.553] being able to provide that same [00:10:10.625] high quality content to all [00:10:12.835] of our students was definitely [00:10:14.984] a key consideration. [00:10:16.764] Um [00:10:17.629] When we started adding additional [00:10:20.340] books, um I was focused [00:10:22.820] on supplementing what our textbooks [00:10:25.379] were missing. Um Our state [00:10:27.619] um in South Carolina pays for our textbooks [00:10:30.090] and it's supposed to be a six year adoption cycle [00:10:32.820] when I first came in. [00:10:34.960] We were um our world [00:10:36.969] history books were 12 years old [00:10:39.158] and there was no nothing on [00:10:41.200] the horizon that those were going to be [00:10:43.269] updated or um [00:10:45.389] replaced. So I wanted to [00:10:47.399] make sure that we had [00:10:49.558] quality materials that teachers [00:10:51.869] could use and provide for their students [00:10:54.840] because we knew that, I mean, most [00:10:56.994] teachers aren't gonna rely on the textbooks alone [00:10:59.075] anyway. But our materials [00:11:01.404] were so far out of date and [00:11:03.644] inadequate for what we needed. And [00:11:05.875] then I was focusing on science [00:11:08.244] and social studies because those were [00:11:10.724] the largest needs. Um [00:11:13.269] I'll share my screen around some [00:11:15.298] of the cool things we did with [00:11:17.359] um science and social studies [00:11:19.399] to get teachers on board later. But [00:11:21.609] then to piggyback on what Brett shared. [00:11:24.190] Apparently that's what I'm gonna do all day is Brett says [00:11:26.489] it. So I'm gonna echo it. [00:11:28.139] Um We also [00:11:30.399] have Cameron's collection. Um [00:11:32.710] We were able to start adding [00:11:34.969] some of the books before COVID [00:11:37.500] and then when COVID came around and [00:11:39.609] there were additional title for funding [00:11:42.019] opportunities. Um We [00:11:45.369] completed our collection and we've continued [00:11:47.678] to use that title four grant funding [00:11:50.119] every year to provide [00:11:52.320] the books for students [00:11:54.359] as well as for teachers. So [00:11:56.658] we've got a whole professional development [00:11:58.820] collection that helps teachers [00:12:01.440] um [00:12:02.519] be able to better address [00:12:04.619] various student needs as well [00:12:06.798] as having those high quality vetted materials [00:12:09.408] that students have access to. Um [00:12:11.960] So that mental health piece was really, really [00:12:14.019] important because even though I know all [00:12:16.219] our librarians are fantastic and approachable, [00:12:18.840] there's still always going to be topics [00:12:21.009] that a student may not want to come [00:12:23.168] in and say, where are the books [00:12:25.308] on this or bring that [00:12:27.509] book up to the circulation [00:12:30.029] desk and check out? But they [00:12:32.229] can 24 7 anytime [00:12:34.509] anyplace have access to those [00:12:36.548] quality um mental health resources [00:12:39.298] and student wellness. [00:12:41.710] That is a, a great point. Christy. I, I [00:12:43.989] appreciate that it is. I think [00:12:46.119] ebooks provides a little bit of security [00:12:48.599] and safety for students. You know, they can look [00:12:50.969] at things that maybe they're just, [00:12:52.940] they don't even want other students to know they're looking [00:12:55.038] at, you know, ebooks about divorce, you know, maybe [00:12:57.239] that's something really personal to them. So it [00:12:59.408] is great that you're able to provide that safe, [00:13:01.808] um vetted and secure but [00:13:04.000] safe private place for them to kind of explore [00:13:06.418] on their own and learn what they need to. [00:13:08.908] Uh, Connie, you are up. Oh, [00:13:11.259] I was just going to say that it, it's [00:13:13.149] not that there's a specific [00:13:15.379] department or something that, [00:13:17.389] um, I hone into for the ebooks. [00:13:19.580] It's mainly overall [00:13:21.950] but it really helps, um, [00:13:24.469] you know, as time gone got goes by and [00:13:26.548] I've been here for so long that [00:13:28.450] you see some teachers [00:13:30.609] that they don't sign up for a specific project [00:13:33.139] the next year and then they start doing [00:13:35.418] things online and the students [00:13:37.489] are just Googling [00:13:39.029] and, uh, this, [00:13:41.229] I've been trying to go to departments and [00:13:43.349] showing them the databases, [00:13:46.048] the ebooks and if you can just try to get them [00:13:48.219] off of Googling, even if they don't want [00:13:50.710] to have me teach it, they [00:13:53.139] can use it on their own. Um, [00:13:56.129] that really helps. [00:13:57.820] Um, but it also has extended [00:14:00.330] the library [00:14:01.690] when teachers hear that I will come to their [00:14:03.750] classroom and I will teach from there or [00:14:05.950] even just be a support and be roaming [00:14:08.129] around the classroom and asking and answering [00:14:10.149] questions. [00:14:11.379] Um, it's made my job so much [00:14:13.418] different, you [00:14:15.509] know, and I love with the gale ebooks that [00:14:17.719] just like the databases, the kids can annotate. [00:14:23.519] Yeah, that's, that's great. Con, I love the [00:14:25.529] idea of you being able to get in with teachers [00:14:27.830] into the classroom. I can say, [00:14:29.558] um, I would have loved to have [00:14:31.668] more of that when I was in the classroom. [00:14:33.759] Definitely, it's great to have [00:14:35.788] that available for everyone. I appreciate [00:14:38.009] you. Sharing that here. [00:14:39.500] Um Yeah, Christy, I agree. Extend [00:14:41.690] the library. [00:14:42.759] That's our goal here is to get the library out [00:14:44.830] to your learning communities [00:14:46.928] in any way we can, right, any way we can do [00:14:48.960] it. So I'm going to pivot just a little [00:14:51.109] bit since we're talking about kind of extending out [00:14:53.178] of the library here. Um So [00:14:55.479] how did you communicate to your staff? [00:14:57.879] You know, once you get a collection and continuously as well, [00:15:00.149] you know, of course, you get a collection year [00:15:02.413] and maybe next year after summer, it's slipped [00:15:04.894] our minds a little bit. So, uh how [00:15:06.984] do you communicate with your staff? How did you get by and initially [00:15:09.375] and how do you keep getting by and keep [00:15:11.585] retaining that interest? Um Right, [00:15:13.815] you can go first or someone else wants to go first this [00:15:15.854] time. That's fine as well. [00:15:18.969] I'm happy to, unless we'd like to flip the order, [00:15:22.519] I'll go one more time. So, [00:15:24.279] you know, the nature of the job is what and [00:15:26.389] when you're a school librarian at the secondary level, [00:15:28.710] you have to create your own offense, so to speak. Right? [00:15:30.849] And no one's necessarily they will invite you in on [00:15:32.879] occasion, but, you know, uh you won't be [00:15:34.940] invited back in unless you have something I supposed to [00:15:36.969] offer. [00:15:37.830] And again, just being a fan of these [00:15:40.259] products for many years, [00:15:42.119] um I think the passion is [00:15:44.168] there and quite honestly, the functionality [00:15:47.029] it kind of sells itself once they realize, [00:15:49.090] I mean, students are going to come back to this and teachers are [00:15:51.119] going to come back to it when they've had success [00:15:53.469] with it. Not just because you tell them to go back to it all the time. [00:15:55.729] Right. And that's increasingly [00:15:57.779] what I find with a little bit [00:15:59.889] of instruction. They make traction [00:16:01.908] very quickly and realize that this is their best [00:16:03.918] friend. You know, I, I tell them all the time, [00:16:06.000] I said Google is not here necessary to serve [00:16:08.219] you or me even hierarchically. [00:16:10.408] But the people that put these products together have [00:16:12.649] your best interests in mind. And the quicker you realize [00:16:14.750] that the more successful you're gonna be in high school. [00:16:16.879] So I push into classrooms [00:16:18.960] often and quite honestly, I prefer to teach in [00:16:21.000] the classroom because the environment is already established [00:16:23.710] there. Um It just, it seems [00:16:26.000] to increasingly go better and [00:16:28.200] um I don't know, the, I guess [00:16:30.359] the availability of, of pushing I [00:16:32.399] was about ready to type into the chat here. [00:16:34.690] I think these particular products [00:16:37.340] just really enable us to get at this [00:16:39.479] idea of embedded librarianship better [00:16:42.219] than uh traditional models. [00:16:44.798] So I don't know, I just [00:16:46.869] see collaboration and I've never, [00:16:48.969] I can't recall the last time I did anything collaboratively [00:16:51.548] that didn't involve some way, shape or form [00:16:53.580] some of these uh these products. [00:16:57.090] I love Brett that you said that Gail [00:16:59.519] wasn't created to support us [00:17:01.590] and or sorry that Google wasn't created [00:17:03.629] to support us. That's not something I've ever [00:17:05.900] said or thought of, but I'm going to say it now because [00:17:08.118] that is exactly right, Gail we [00:17:10.328] do, we, we were made to support you guys [00:17:12.598] and um Google was made [00:17:14.670] to support everyone indiscriminately. So [00:17:16.868] that, that's a great, [00:17:18.680] that's a great feeling that I never thought of before. [00:17:21.239] Yeah. Well, just to add on here, [00:17:23.479] um [00:17:25.098] when they say the functionality, I mean, there are many databases [00:17:27.338] out there and platforms. I tell the kids to if you learn [00:17:29.400] how to drive one, [00:17:30.900] sorry, [00:17:34.900] it always has to happen, right? [00:17:37.130] No matter what [00:17:39.029] the danger of being in a school, [00:17:43.650] I will, I I know where Brett was [00:17:45.799] going with this because that was actually one of the things [00:17:47.880] I wanted to talk about because we [00:17:50.709] have a number of gale databases [00:17:52.868] through our state library that's, that are provided [00:17:55.250] to all our districts as well as [00:17:57.358] additional ones that are district purchases [00:18:00.180] and those have been around for a while. [00:18:02.309] So those are pretty solid [00:18:04.348] with our teachers. And so when I introduce [00:18:06.630] and share the ebooks, I'm always like, y'all [00:18:08.689] know how to use these already because the navigation [00:18:11.250] is so similar and that [00:18:13.469] makes it easier for them to make use [00:18:15.549] of as well as easier for [00:18:17.630] the students to make use of it feels familiar. [00:18:20.108] So if they've used biography in context [00:18:22.868] and they open up [00:18:24.328] an ebook of a biography [00:18:26.400] about a specific person, [00:18:28.789] they're going to feel very confident and [00:18:30.838] comfortable immediately. There's, there's [00:18:33.118] not a lot of um added [00:18:35.229] time on that. [00:18:36.299] Um I always call gale our [00:18:38.390] easy button for teachers. So [00:18:40.838] it's one of those things that [00:18:43.049] it's not [00:18:44.630] a lot of extra time to [00:18:46.719] learn and figure out it's pretty intuitive [00:18:48.809] navigation wise. But also [00:18:51.479] there's so many things that it can [00:18:53.660] do that will make their lives easier. [00:18:56.219] Um Obviously just the integrated [00:18:58.328] navigation. But gale [00:19:00.618] also um especially the ebooks, [00:19:03.098] they do a fantastic job [00:19:05.108] um connecting and integrating [00:19:07.380] with learning management systems. Our district [00:19:09.880] uses canvas and [00:19:11.818] it's magic. It is seamless. [00:19:14.039] And it's one of those things where, [00:19:16.739] you know, like, remember when you show a six [00:19:18.900] year old, a magic trick and their eyes just [00:19:20.939] get so big, that's what happens to a room [00:19:23.229] full of teachers when you show them [00:19:25.549] and you can embed this part [00:19:27.769] of an ebook or part [00:19:29.930] of an article in your [00:19:32.170] canvas assignment or in your canvas [00:19:34.189] announcement. And it's just like, oh my goodness, [00:19:36.949] because they see that that's something [00:19:39.309] that makes their lives easier. So I really [00:19:41.509] emphasize that this is [00:19:43.689] not one more thing. [00:19:45.779] It is actually the thing that [00:19:47.848] when it's integrated makes their day [00:19:49.868] to day so much easier. And [00:19:51.880] then I always circle back to the and [00:19:53.969] it's vetted and its quality and [00:19:56.828] you're not just sending them [00:19:58.890] to the wild wild world of Google. [00:20:01.199] Um [00:20:02.130] As far as marketing. I've done [00:20:04.289] a lot of 30 minute sessions. [00:20:06.789] Um, I've found that that's kind of the sweet [00:20:08.949] spot for our teachers. They, they [00:20:10.959] are kind of commitment phobic, um, [00:20:12.979] around times that are longer than 45 [00:20:15.549] minutes. But I've found that I [00:20:17.559] can share a lot of great resources [00:20:20.630] in a short amount of time. [00:20:22.630] Um, and they've responded to that. [00:20:24.890] I invite myself to a lot [00:20:26.930] of meetings. Um, I'm just like, [00:20:29.039] oh, you're having a department meeting, I'm gonna be [00:20:31.118] here and when I introduce [00:20:33.180] myself, then I, you know, share [00:20:35.588] a couple of things and, [00:20:37.559] you know, generally I'm able to [00:20:39.598] share some information. Um [00:20:41.828] We also try to do a lot of social [00:20:44.108] media. We do a regular weekly post [00:20:46.578] that did, you know about different [00:20:48.750] digital resources and every [00:20:51.049] 2 to 3 weeks, some feature product [00:20:53.380] from Gale is on there and [00:20:55.868] that just kind of captures people's attention. [00:20:58.799] Um The biggest thing [00:21:01.269] that and I promise I won't have this [00:21:03.328] much to say in the next couple because they're more [00:21:05.469] student centered. But from a district perspective, [00:21:08.259] one of the things that [00:21:11.279] we did that will [00:21:13.779] um [00:21:14.739] that made a big difference for our teachers [00:21:17.358] and thinking about that easy button [00:21:19.670] Gale offers an alignment service. [00:21:22.279] So this is [00:21:24.549] our collection of middle [00:21:26.709] school social studies books. [00:21:28.660] And so they added shelves, [00:21:31.439] we've got, you know, a collection of maps [00:21:33.459] and atlases and primary sources that are for [00:21:35.568] everyone. But then we've got [00:21:37.858] our sixth grade standards broken [00:21:40.239] down. So if they're on [00:21:42.489] this standard, [00:21:44.009] they can click on that. [00:21:48.969] Well, there's such [00:21:51.108] when my internet works, they could [00:21:53.170] click on that. And the gale [00:21:55.358] ebooks we have specifically [00:21:57.750] for [00:21:58.759] that portion of their standards [00:22:01.289] come up. Um, it is [00:22:03.410] a little bit of an extra fee to do the alignment. [00:22:06.259] But again, when I tell [00:22:08.689] a teacher that they're not just searching [00:22:10.969] through 800 of our gale [00:22:13.118] ebooks that they can go and look and [00:22:15.380] here's 22 and then they [00:22:17.430] can look and narrow that down and [00:22:19.555] figure out what makes the most sense. [00:22:22.203] Um But these alignments [00:22:24.354] have been really, really powerful. [00:22:26.424] Um We use clever as [00:22:28.755] our single sign on. And [00:22:31.094] so the teachers see [00:22:33.775] um depending on their grade level that we've [00:22:35.953] got science for middle school, science [00:22:38.375] for high school s or social studies [00:22:40.574] for middle school, social studies for high school. [00:22:42.989] And then the teachers can also integrate [00:22:45.380] these collections directly into [00:22:47.400] their canvas courses as well [00:22:49.618] to make it even more seamless. So, [00:22:52.400] um those added conveniences, [00:22:55.059] that's been a huge part of [00:22:57.529] how we market and what's really [00:22:59.729] gotten teachers excited and [00:23:01.739] ready to buy in. [00:23:04.719] So it sounds like Christy, your um [00:23:07.309] your main talking point no matter where you [00:23:09.358] are is easy. [00:23:11.239] That's your word that I [00:23:13.469] Yeah. Yes. So [00:23:15.160] we put it there because it [00:23:17.219] does, it is easy and [00:23:19.279] just reminding them that [00:23:21.549] this is here and this is how easy [00:23:23.920] it is. So little effort, [00:23:25.979] big results. [00:23:27.239] That's good in the world of education. [00:23:29.568] Yes, [00:23:30.368] I agree. [00:23:31.838] Well, thank you for that Christy. I will pause quickly [00:23:33.890] before we get to Connie. Um, [00:23:36.009] we just had a message in the Q and [00:23:38.150] A and I know that none of us are going to have this [00:23:40.209] answer right now because I don't think any of us are prepared [00:23:42.430] for it. [00:23:43.318] Um, but we had a question asking about, [00:23:45.779] um, circulation stats regarding [00:23:48.380] Cameron's collection if you guys, um, [00:23:50.630] have any numbers and of course, I don't ever wanna share [00:23:52.910] your specific numbers, but, [00:23:54.699] um, I'm going to get with you guys after the session [00:23:56.910] to maybe see, uh, you know, if you have some [00:23:59.130] trends that you see, maybe you see a lot of [00:24:01.140] ebooks that are really getting coverage and getting [00:24:03.309] used, you know, in January or, [00:24:05.568] um, so I'm going to get with you after the session. I just [00:24:07.630] want our, uh, question, ask her to know that, [00:24:10.009] um, I'm gonna reach out and see what kind of [00:24:12.029] information we can give them. [00:24:14.118] But, um, but let's go ahead and [00:24:16.180] move on and have Connie talk to us a little bit about [00:24:18.410] how she communicates with her staff. [00:24:23.789] I don't really have anything new other [00:24:25.939] than, uh, [00:24:27.279] or just to, um, reiterate what [00:24:29.338] they were saying. Um, [00:24:31.519] my big thing is to get out to the [00:24:33.699] department meetings [00:24:35.318] and I know for a lot of us it's getting [00:24:37.670] out of our little box, [00:24:40.489] which is many of us are pretty introverted [00:24:43.250] as I am. And so doing [00:24:45.709] that is you have to push yourself. [00:24:48.279] And um it's not hard for me to [00:24:50.328] do the English department. I was an English teacher but [00:24:52.390] getting myself over to social studies, [00:24:54.680] science, [00:24:55.834] try to do that at least once a year. [00:24:58.154] Um e especially try to connect [00:25:00.275] with the new teachers and we [00:25:02.424] all know it's all word of mouth. You get [00:25:04.614] one teacher [00:25:06.275] and then they talk to their core leads, [00:25:08.755] they talk to their um grade [00:25:10.805] level group and then it just starts. [00:25:13.434] Then the next year you have two teachers to work [00:25:15.555] with. Uh this year my [00:25:18.035] social studies teach uh department [00:25:20.769] never used to come into the library and I had three [00:25:23.328] this year. So I feel like this year was [00:25:25.368] such a success and [00:25:27.578] two of them are new teachers. And [00:25:30.068] so and, and that's how it starts. It's just, [00:25:32.588] you know, word of mouth. That's all all [00:25:34.719] you really can do. [00:25:37.769] Oh and little oh and little [00:25:39.949] um little gifts, little bribes [00:25:42.559] also really help. We've [00:25:44.699] taken um little candies [00:25:47.108] and I've taken um [00:25:50.539] made cute little thank yous [00:25:52.809] and covered the label [00:25:55.519] and say thank you for working with the library [00:25:57.568] ladies and put that in their boxes. [00:26:00.618] Um Just [00:26:03.059] a little treat that they like, [00:26:05.680] I love that I'm all about treats, you [00:26:07.709] know. So since I've worked with you, if you [00:26:09.789] can send one my way as well. It'd be greatly [00:26:11.920] appreciated. [00:26:13.868] No, but I love the idea of kind of the [00:26:16.108] dam breaking a little bit, you know, like you [00:26:18.259] had a couple trickles of people coming in, [00:26:20.289] but now you're starting to see more and that's, it's [00:26:22.459] great. It's showing that what you're doing is working and [00:26:25.108] I think that's, that's powerful just [00:26:27.229] to know that something is working is, is really [00:26:29.318] nice [00:26:30.160] And I want to kind of come from a different [00:26:33.019] angle with this question and it's one that I know no [00:26:35.088] one really likes to talk about, but I think it's nice to, [00:26:37.420] just to mention it. So, [00:26:39.009] um I'm assuming you've all received pushback [00:26:41.239] on things. I think we all get it no matter [00:26:43.439] who we're talking to, no matter what we're talking about. [00:26:45.880] Um If you do ever get pushed back about [00:26:48.049] something, maybe, you know, just they don't like the platform [00:26:50.299] or maybe they're confused about why you're using [00:26:52.318] this instead of the physical textbook. [00:26:54.618] Um You know, what do you say to that person? What [00:26:56.799] sort of things do you try to, to get across to them? [00:26:58.818] Of course, Christy has her easy button, which [00:27:01.338] I agree is great. But um have you experienced [00:27:03.838] other things that you've kind of had to navigate through and [00:27:06.009] how did you do that? [00:27:11.719] Um I'll wait and again, here. So [00:27:14.299] not much pushback. I mean, again, [00:27:16.390] the products are superior, the kids have success [00:27:19.130] um the only thing that, well, actually this [00:27:21.489] is a recent phenomenon this year, I've been working with [00:27:23.588] one English teacher in particular that [00:27:26.189] uh goes the extra mile for 1/10 [00:27:28.259] grade editorial project. And we talk [00:27:30.509] a lot about source variety [00:27:32.549] uh in that particular assignment, which is good. [00:27:35.239] But on occasion, you know, if I'm [00:27:37.368] pitching databases or ebooks as a starting [00:27:39.578] place for a lot of the research, [00:27:41.828] occasionally she wants to move it over into what [00:27:43.959] she might consider more real world application [00:27:46.618] because the kids are going to be searching for podcasts and then Google [00:27:49.078] and Infographics and all which is fine, totally [00:27:51.509] fine. And we have a nice uh co [00:27:53.660] teaching style. [00:27:55.219] But when all is done even giving [00:27:57.539] them the options, once they've experienced [00:27:59.559] the, the easy and the success [00:28:01.693] of some of these gale products and particularly, you know, [00:28:03.713] the ebooks, [00:28:05.045] the kids will come back to those, [00:28:07.193] they'll gravitate back to that given the choice of doing [00:28:09.424] something that is potentially even easier. Google searching, [00:28:11.674] whatever I think that they, they're willing [00:28:13.924] to camp out in some of these gale products [00:28:16.164] anyhow, despite what we say about, you know, broadening [00:28:18.664] their horizons. So, um [00:28:20.884] not a whole lot of push back, but that's something that recent [00:28:22.963] that recently that's relevant to your question, I think. [00:28:28.549] Yeah, that's great. I'm, I'm glad you're getting [00:28:30.598] the buy in and not feeling the pushback. I, I love [00:28:33.199] to hear that. [00:28:34.390] Um So we can definitely move on if Christine kind [00:28:36.430] of, if you kind of feel the same way that [00:28:38.630] you've gotten in there and you get the, you get [00:28:40.750] everyone seeing the easy and it kind of flows. [00:28:42.769] That's, [00:28:43.568] that's perfect for me. That's what I like to hear. [00:28:46.029] Um I will pause quickly. We haven't gotten [00:28:48.118] any questions in the Q and A. I wanna make sure [00:28:50.189] that we're hitting everything [00:28:51.880] our attendees here today are looking for. [00:28:53.969] So again, utilize that Q and A [00:28:56.039] when you think of a question, we'll be sure to, to [00:28:58.059] get to that. But um we'll just [00:29:00.098] keep going with what I thought of since [00:29:02.250] we haven't had any come in here. So, [00:29:05.939] oh, there we go. [00:29:07.118] Um So I want to move on from kind [00:29:09.209] of marketing and promoting to teachers. [00:29:11.469] Uh How did you grab your students attention specifically? [00:29:14.189] So how did you, I know of course a lot, um a couple [00:29:16.549] of you have talked about getting into the classroom and just working, [00:29:18.969] but what specifically did you use? [00:29:21.368] You know, how did you actually get in there? And I [00:29:23.410] know it's really hard, especially we have high school [00:29:25.459] librarians on the line to actually grab a high schooler [00:29:27.529] attention. So uh how [00:29:29.559] did you do that? Anyone can start [00:29:31.650] again if we want Brett to go first or if we want to switch [00:29:33.858] it up, whoever [00:29:36.689] I'm gonna pop in very quickly because [00:29:39.650] um [00:29:41.000] I don't work directly with students [00:29:43.348] all the time, but I did have an [00:29:45.410] opportunity to do some co [00:29:47.469] teaching [00:29:48.469] with around gale ebooks with one of [00:29:50.529] our newer librarians. And [00:29:52.838] the minute I showed them the citation [00:29:55.029] piece, they were like, that's it. [00:29:58.049] So it was kind of like the easy button for students [00:30:00.400] also. But the citation piece [00:30:02.559] they were like, [00:30:03.750] and it's all here. I was like, yes. [00:30:05.900] Um, so that was, um, [00:30:08.789] really powerful and that got everybody's [00:30:11.259] attention [00:30:12.098] because they could kind of check that part of [00:30:14.578] their work off. [00:30:18.719] I agree that it, [00:30:20.598] you know, teachers, we all remember [00:30:23.108] how it was to do them on note cards [00:30:25.789] on source cards. [00:30:27.509] And students are like, well, you know, they take [00:30:29.588] it for granted that it's there. Uh But [00:30:31.920] I do notice my students do appreciate [00:30:34.170] uh they really like the annotation [00:30:36.739] and I do still have some teachers who [00:30:38.989] do physical note cards and they [00:30:41.029] don't have to do that [00:30:42.699] um when they annotate in Gale [00:30:45.229] and here in California, um [00:30:47.900] the state does pay for Proquest [00:30:49.930] and they don't have that ability. [00:30:52.039] So we really do focus on Gale [00:30:54.469] uh platforms and it, [00:30:57.150] I just love that Gale ebooks [00:30:59.430] versus any of the databases [00:31:01.509] we subscribe to [00:31:03.049] the [00:31:03.949] interface is the same. [00:31:05.789] So the kids really don't even notice the difference [00:31:08.209] between an ebook and [00:31:10.338] the high school database at all [00:31:12.939] and the fact that it's integrated with one drive [00:31:15.400] or with their Google Drive [00:31:17.630] and then just with one click, they send [00:31:19.640] it over and it has, oh, and the [00:31:21.670] color coding too, we go into, [00:31:24.459] uh, breaking down their topics. What are [00:31:26.559] some good ideas on how to break this [00:31:28.739] down? And, um, [00:31:31.328] we give some examples and [00:31:33.608] then [00:31:34.578] they do their articles and then we share [00:31:36.910] out [00:31:37.799] how they separated it [00:31:39.680] and it's just so beneficial. [00:31:44.479] I agree. It's so nice to have that kind [00:31:46.890] of guided pathway to organized research. [00:31:49.140] I know a lot of students that's kind of the, [00:31:51.209] the sticking point, especially if they graduate [00:31:53.309] and are planning on going off to college is [00:31:55.779] uh you know, they're organizing themselves now. [00:31:57.789] So if we can give them those skills before they [00:31:59.868] get there, that's, that's incredibly powerful [00:32:02.368] and I will stop quickly because we have a question [00:32:04.598] uh from Shayna here that I just want to answer [00:32:06.779] before we kind of move forward. Um [00:32:08.818] So the question is, is there a way for a teacher to view [00:32:10.880] student annotations and for [00:32:13.029] the, and or for them to be integrated with Google Docs [00:32:15.390] to add quotes to a paper? So, [00:32:17.390] Shana, they can't see annotations that are being [00:32:19.489] made on the resource itself. [00:32:21.989] But the uh highlights and [00:32:24.108] notes that any annotations they take can [00:32:26.368] actually be sent over to their Google Drive. [00:32:28.920] Um When it's sent over to their drive, it goes over [00:32:31.130] as a Google Doc. So they'll be able to save it on [00:32:33.189] their own and they can share that doc or edit [00:32:35.209] that doc with, you know, [00:32:36.959] whoever they want to. So, if it's a teacher, [00:32:39.160] uh, the teacher can ask to have those sent over [00:32:41.380] to them. Uh, that's the best way to do that is [00:32:43.430] to go ahead and go in there and you'll be able to send it over [00:32:45.670] to your drive. [00:32:49.910] And Brett, I saw you on muting. So [00:32:51.979] I'll let you go ahead and pick it back up. [00:32:54.000] Yeah. So, you know, I wish I had [00:32:56.328] a student, um, [00:32:57.858] evidence for this. It's more of my suspicion [00:33:00.348] than anything else. But I honestly think sometimes [00:33:02.739] particularly our upper class when they're little, they get [00:33:04.900] bored. Right. Doing the Google Search [00:33:07.140] if it, if it's that easy. And I think, [00:33:09.259] I think there's something to the sophistication [00:33:11.289] of the products, but they're not so sophisticated [00:33:13.729] that they can't find their way around. Right. It's, [00:33:15.779] it's that state of flow almost. I mean, they get [00:33:17.868] there and they'll stay there. [00:33:19.779] Um which I like, you know, [00:33:21.799] the other panelists have mentioned this too, but the functionality, [00:33:24.529] so many things you can do with it, the citation feature alone, [00:33:26.949] right? We use noodle Bib, you [00:33:29.118] know, importing that, that stuff into noodle Bib is, [00:33:31.239] is awesome. We're in office 365 [00:33:33.650] school, right. As much as I teach, our kids are [00:33:35.689] really uh leaning on that too, for [00:33:37.729] integration of the content. [00:33:39.588] But, [00:33:40.410] you know, here's the thing too. It's just I didn't [00:33:42.779] stumble upon this early on but recently [00:33:45.279] I find my way, I find myself teaching [00:33:47.390] it and many kids like this [00:33:49.500] notion, let's say any, any research project, it doesn't [00:33:51.660] matter what the content area is. [00:33:54.180] Uh, I'll give an example, senior inquiry [00:33:56.229] somebody's doing. So, I'm sorry, rather a public policy [00:33:58.439] project. They're doing it on affirmative action. Right. [00:34:00.939] And they were in the Ebook platform [00:34:03.309] and we're modeling the search [00:34:05.000] and they come up with affirmative action but they can see [00:34:07.059] it through different lenses of different ebooks [00:34:09.519] and they like that. Right. Well, there's [00:34:11.849] the idea of affirmative action as seen through [00:34:14.489] uh you know, encyclopedia of us [00:34:16.809] Supreme Court. There, there's the lens [00:34:18.907] through social sciences, there's the lens [00:34:21.009] through American history, African American [00:34:23.197] history, any number of things, right? And [00:34:25.329] we get some traction out of that. We're actually getting them to [00:34:27.387] sit down and compare and contrast or [00:34:29.407] actually think about those different lenses that [00:34:31.688] they wouldn't have necessarily stumbled upon in a regular [00:34:34.358] internet search, [00:34:35.829] you know, so they, they, they get there [00:34:38.128] and they stay there because quite [00:34:40.268] honestly, I think they're more interested. [00:34:43.907] I love that idea. But I think a lot of times [00:34:46.088] we talk about, you know, our accessibility tools, [00:34:48.329] our translate tools, our text manipulation [00:34:50.918] tools that are really helpful for students who are [00:34:53.018] struggling readers and who may um [00:34:55.289] are maybe a little bit behind where they should [00:34:57.338] be in their grades. Um But this, [00:34:59.378] the sophistication is also great for students who [00:35:01.407] are maybe a little more advanced. [00:35:03.418] I love the idea of maybe getting those board [00:35:05.447] students back in the resources, you know, they, [00:35:08.188] they have no trouble Googling anything but, [00:35:10.750] you know, all that's doing is spitting out content [00:35:13.039] for them. So the idea of them being able to [00:35:15.139] really engage meaningfully with the text [00:35:17.628] and kind of dig in on their own and maybe start using [00:35:20.039] our filters, our advanced [00:35:22.110] searches to kind of build those research skills [00:35:24.429] that they're most likely not going to get with Google. That's [00:35:26.599] that's powerful to kind of see the [00:35:28.739] other side. We're supporting our struggling [00:35:30.898] learners and we're also supporting our more advanced [00:35:33.139] learners who are ready to kind of take another step [00:35:35.269] into research that's really powerful. [00:35:39.059] Um So let's go ahead and keep moving. I will say, [00:35:41.489] and we had someone mention um our accessibility [00:35:44.188] tools in the Q and A. So, [00:35:46.329] um we'll just throw it out there again. [00:35:48.570] Um When we're talking about accessibility tools, [00:35:50.628] we're talking about the fact that you can um [00:35:53.648] listen to the text, have the text read to [00:35:55.760] you, you can translate the text. Um You [00:35:57.840] can change the text formatting so you [00:35:59.918] can choose a different font, you can choose a different color. [00:36:02.360] So um really [00:36:04.500] allowing students to customize what theyre [00:36:06.590] accessing in a really easy and meaningful [00:36:08.668] way to make sure that everyone is getting what they need. [00:36:12.360] Uh So thank you for that quick [00:36:14.760] comment there in the Q and I, I appreciate that. [00:36:17.188] Uh Let's move forward here. So [00:36:19.309] we've, we've gotten our students attention now [00:36:21.599] now that we have their attention. What [00:36:23.639] sort of activities are you guys using Guilty books [00:36:25.889] for? Brett? You already mentioned a few projects [00:36:28.119] um that you use that for? But [00:36:30.219] what other activities do you use it for? It can't just be [00:36:32.360] one project a year. Hopefully. So, [00:36:35.159] again, anyone, uh, Connie, [00:36:37.389] why don't we? Have you go first, I'm going to volunteer [00:36:39.510] you. Is that all right? [00:36:41.349] Mix it up a little bit. [00:36:43.860] Well, there's no, uh, [00:36:45.750] you know, activities that are [00:36:48.208] generated by me. It's normally [00:36:50.489] the other way around. So, on this [00:36:52.559] campus, we have a lot of [00:36:54.769] um social issues projects, [00:36:57.478] you know, controversial issues. We have [00:36:59.719] um uh career [00:37:02.208] papers. [00:37:03.789] Those are the two biggest things. Uh [00:37:07.059] And then now the, a little [00:37:09.409] bit of social studies coming [00:37:11.489] in, you know, the new, um A [00:37:13.530] P African [00:37:14.969] American studies class [00:37:17.110] that is one of the new teachers who has come in. [00:37:19.750] So we've been working hand in hand all [00:37:21.789] year because they have a huge research [00:37:24.489] project [00:37:26.019] that is their test. [00:37:28.110] Um So there's another really [00:37:30.179] good way to use your gale [00:37:32.309] ebooks and database. [00:37:34.168] And she has, and I've never worked with her [00:37:36.199] before. She's worked, she's been here before me [00:37:39.059] and she's never come in with her prep kids or anything. [00:37:41.438] And now with this new class, [00:37:44.340] she suddenly is seeing all the [00:37:46.369] things that we have and um, [00:37:48.610] it's just been spectacular. So, [00:37:51.820] uh hopefully she'll be coming back for her regular [00:37:53.949] classes as well. [00:37:56.329] I love that. I love that. She's willing [00:37:58.619] to come in more than just for projects alone. [00:38:01.188] You know, she has her big projects that she's definitely [00:38:03.519] using Gil for. But she's coming in through the year [00:38:06.059] because it's always helpful to just get students [00:38:08.329] used to these ebooks before those big projects. [00:38:10.719] So then you're not teaching them how to do the project and [00:38:12.840] how to use Gil ebooks. You know, they're, they're [00:38:14.909] comfortable, they're just hopping in. So it's, [00:38:16.938] it's great that you have a teacher coming in to try [00:38:19.019] to get that done. [00:38:22.760] Um I will pop in. [00:38:24.969] Um, [00:38:26.059] I know that we market [00:38:28.389] a lot of our ebooks to our content [00:38:30.809] area teachers around [00:38:33.079] ways to make sure [00:38:35.188] that they're actually hitting all their standards [00:38:38.030] because any textbook [00:38:40.128] that they may have is not going [00:38:42.309] to perfectly match all of our state [00:38:44.360] based standards, but we're buying [00:38:46.708] ebooks based on those state based [00:38:48.820] standards. So we're using those [00:38:51.168] to fill in gaps. But also [00:38:53.445] a lot of teachers are making use [00:38:55.574] of portions of the ebooks to [00:38:57.614] help front load information [00:38:59.655] before a project or before, [00:39:02.114] um, getting into a new unit. And [00:39:04.313] then they're also using them, [00:39:06.344] of course, for individual [00:39:08.375] research and when the kids go into [00:39:10.503] more deep dive mode. Um Another [00:39:13.014] thing that we make use [00:39:15.103] of our ebooks for, [00:39:17.340] of course, we're connecting with our counselors [00:39:20.090] um around that sel content [00:39:22.289] with our Cameron's collection and Cameron's camp [00:39:24.458] for Wellness and being, [00:39:26.510] having the counselors have those [00:39:29.050] ready and available to [00:39:31.610] share. That's been great. [00:39:34.000] But um we use our professional [00:39:36.260] development collection for various [00:39:38.478] book clubs because they're great [00:39:40.739] for book studies. They're [00:39:42.449] um multiuser ebooks. [00:39:44.659] So it's great to [00:39:46.840] be able to have like our Multilingual [00:39:49.039] teachers um used [00:39:51.360] one of the books as a book [00:39:53.398] study and they were spread out [00:39:55.619] across all schools, but they were doing [00:39:57.639] this zoom professional book study [00:39:59.938] based on this book that [00:40:02.079] was in our gale ebook collection. So [00:40:04.719] that's been some, [00:40:07.219] it's been great to see teachers and [00:40:09.239] staff use it as well as our [00:40:11.329] students. [00:40:13.860] I really appreciate that you mentioned getting [00:40:16.110] the cameraman's collection ebooks out to [00:40:18.168] counselors because I think it's [00:40:20.329] easy to overlook that especially with [00:40:22.610] the billions and billions of things that you all [00:40:24.760] are doing. So that is, I definitely [00:40:26.989] appreciate you kind of reminding all of us [00:40:29.030] that it's not just teachers who are going to use these E books, [00:40:31.289] you know, you have support staff who could really [00:40:33.510] benefit, you know, um reading interventionists, [00:40:36.090] your admin who may be doing work with students, [00:40:38.489] your counselors if you do have social emotional [00:40:40.708] learning ebooks. So, um Christy, I thank [00:40:42.889] you for for making that point just reminding us that [00:40:44.989] there are a lot of people we can reach with these ebooks [00:40:47.208] um, in addition to our teachers, [00:40:50.260] can I just add something Amber [00:40:52.458] from Christy saying that, um, [00:40:55.559] I sub at least once a week [00:40:57.570] around here and, um, I use that [00:40:59.619] opportunity to plug the library [00:41:02.500] and so I'll show them, you know, [00:41:04.789] the ebooks that we have or the databases. [00:41:06.909] I, I go over chromebook stuff [00:41:09.750] but one thing when I show them the sel [00:41:12.019] resources we have, [00:41:13.840] I really plug that all of it's anonymous [00:41:16.148] that they're not checking out anything and [00:41:18.300] there's, you see a lot of the kids, there's [00:41:20.590] their eyes open up a little bit [00:41:22.989] and that is where I've seen [00:41:25.449] our, um, numbers really go up [00:41:27.969] because being anonymous [00:41:29.978] is everything when it comes [00:41:32.039] to these topics. [00:41:33.938] Um, I don't know. It's made a big [00:41:36.000] difference, I think because getting [00:41:38.269] them to check the physical books out is [00:41:40.369] hard enough. But here, the fact [00:41:42.728] that they can go there on their phones, their [00:41:44.820] parents don't see it, their friends don't see it [00:41:47.378] and everybody can access it. There's no checking [00:41:49.728] out. You don't have to worry about an ebook [00:41:51.829] coming back. [00:41:53.300] Um, it's multi user. They love it [00:42:04.329] a couple of thoughts. Uh, I'm trying to think [00:42:06.519] of new things I haven't already covered [00:42:08.679] and just yesterday [00:42:11.090] there is a social science teacher. I've worked [00:42:13.239] with, uh, several years now. [00:42:15.929] Uh, we work well together but she's going to be [00:42:17.978] teaching a new prep next year on the Comparative [00:42:20.269] Religions. I guess it's an elective we haven't had here [00:42:22.519] since I've been here in the past eight years. [00:42:24.519] And she stopped me, say, hey, I want to sit down and talk [00:42:26.708] about, you know, planning for next year. I don't [00:42:28.978] even know if she's starting out with a textbook, you know. So [00:42:31.099] there's a perfect opportunity to call [00:42:33.438] our collection. [00:42:34.958] You know, I go back to the click days. It's [00:42:37.110] not called click anymore. But that whole idea of you [00:42:39.159] can actually take your ebook collection [00:42:41.739] and make that foundational for, [00:42:43.869] you know, many, many particular courses [00:42:45.918] we couldn't ever afford, you know, that at [00:42:47.958] this dis district or the other one, I [00:42:50.030] think in recent years because who isn't, [00:42:52.070] you know, suffering from dwindling budgets and all [00:42:54.199] that. But the, but the idea is the same that [00:42:56.228] you can actually go through that collection and build [00:42:58.438] up a pretty healthy uh you [00:43:00.590] know, amount of materials to [00:43:02.889] uh you know, ground, of course [00:43:05.079] there. So I'm gonna be looking to work with her [00:43:07.188] over the next couple weeks to plan it for next year. [00:43:11.340] I love that. I think flexibility is definitely [00:43:13.429] something ebooks have going for [00:43:15.570] them. You know, it's [00:43:17.119] often times a lot easier to deal with [00:43:19.250] books and trying to deal with, you know, textbook [00:43:21.849] updates and getting what textbooks [00:43:24.208] where they need to go. So I love that idea [00:43:26.289] of flexibility being available when you need it. [00:43:28.469] That's definitely something, something to kind [00:43:30.648] of point out. [00:43:34.429] OK, so let's go ahead and move forward [00:43:36.500] again. So I have one more question I kind [00:43:38.639] of pre organized and then it's going [00:43:40.840] to be up to our lovely attendees to give [00:43:42.949] us some more questions to answer. But I've [00:43:45.119] got one more that I just [00:43:47.179] was very interested in that I want to hear about [00:43:49.250] here. Um I want [00:43:51.360] you guys as tips and tricks. I want [00:43:53.579] what you love to do. I want what you show [00:43:55.659] your students we've got citation down, so [00:43:57.938] we'll give that one for front [00:44:00.260] and I know we've got easy down as well. But, [00:44:02.659] um, what other tips do you have? [00:44:06.039] How do you really maximize [00:44:08.219] your ebooks? [00:44:12.668] You all know how to use these ebooks and you know how to get your students, [00:44:17.619] Tony. I see that you are unmuted. So I'm thinking [00:44:19.739] you wanna go first. [00:44:21.260] Uh, I thought I could go over the, [00:44:23.340] your Mark records. [00:44:25.188] Um, people may not know [00:44:27.219] that Gale offers free [00:44:29.590] Mark records for the ebooks which, [00:44:32.469] um, have really helped so [00:44:34.579] that students can look for print [00:44:36.789] and the ebooks at the same time. [00:44:39.139] So, [00:44:40.340] uh, let me share my screen here. [00:44:53.389] Oops. Ok. So [00:44:55.539] most of you know that [00:44:57.478] whether it's an ebook or a book, [00:45:00.010] reference books, the Mark records [00:45:02.418] are pretty bad. [00:45:04.188] They're very scant [00:45:05.760] and the content note looks something like this. [00:45:08.300] Here's the Renaissance and reformation [00:45:10.360] book. And how are students [00:45:12.559] supposed to find anything in a, in a book [00:45:14.679] when it goes A through KL [00:45:17.329] through Z. [00:45:19.188] So here whether it's a book or an ebook, [00:45:21.559] we [00:45:23.090] rec catalog like crazy, sorry [00:45:25.119] about the Bell. [00:45:27.148] Uh, [00:45:28.699] and we do this for, you know, our social [00:45:30.728] issue books, everything. And that's [00:45:33.110] where we really see our circulation [00:45:35.139] go up because [00:45:37.349] our philosophy is that we are competing against [00:45:39.619] Google and you're spending all [00:45:41.719] of this money on your print sources, [00:45:43.938] your ebooks, whatever it is [00:45:46.438] and then it doesn't generate, it doesn't go [00:45:48.500] out. So why spend the money [00:45:50.719] if you're not willing to spend the time [00:45:52.898] rec cataloging? So here's another [00:45:55.260] example, [00:45:56.539] you know, the American Decades series [00:45:59.188] and all it does is have the [00:46:01.250] years. [00:46:02.989] There's another one A through de [00:46:05.000] through L Russian History, [00:46:08.099] no topics whatsoever. It has a little [00:46:10.300] bit of topics up here in the summary, [00:46:13.418] but that's it. [00:46:14.648] So what do we do? We add [00:46:17.019] um in it, we add an additional content [00:46:19.378] note of 505 or a summary [00:46:21.648] note 500 [00:46:24.168] and yes, it can take some [00:46:26.398] time, but it is so well worth [00:46:28.478] it. I mean, you're spending 300 plus [00:46:30.800] dollars for this huge volume [00:46:33.039] set. Um But [00:46:35.168] many of them we find on [00:46:37.489] Google by Googling the ISBN [00:46:39.610] number of the print version because [00:46:41.639] some other OPEC has already [00:46:43.889] done the work [00:46:45.148] and found it or added it for [00:46:47.208] you and then I just copy and paste it [00:46:49.679] into our Me Mark [00:46:50.760] record. So that's pretty easy. [00:46:52.918] But if I can't find it then. [00:46:55.289] Yes, I'm gonna have to do the work. [00:46:57.429] I use the table contents but a lot [00:46:59.559] of times the table of contents isn't there [00:47:01.829] or it's [00:47:03.438] again just saying a through ef [00:47:06.070] through G something like that. [00:47:08.418] So I actually use the index [00:47:10.570] and it can take me up to an hour for [00:47:12.978] a full volume set. I'll go [00:47:15.090] through the, the index and if it's anything [00:47:17.228] significant, [00:47:18.550] meaning like three pages or more [00:47:20.989] of a topic, then I add it as [00:47:23.418] a summary note of 500. [00:47:26.090] And I'll just say, you know, topics include [00:47:28.599] such and such comma such and such comma [00:47:30.659] yes, it's tedious. [00:47:32.610] But again, why spend the money [00:47:35.148] because it's not going to go out [00:47:37.289] if you don't put in that content [00:47:39.579] note or summary. So here's [00:47:41.619] an example of how I fixed that first book, [00:47:43.769] The Renaissance and Reformation. [00:47:45.849] And here's just some of the things that I found [00:47:48.199] in uh the table contents or [00:47:50.360] the index. [00:47:52.458] And here's the American decades I just [00:47:54.570] showed you [00:47:56.639] and this one. OK. [00:47:58.728] I don't know if I found it or had [00:48:00.849] to actually do the content note. [00:48:03.030] Now, this is just a through eye of [00:48:05.148] the Russian history one [00:48:07.500] and it continues. So it was [00:48:09.708] a long, [00:48:11.610] so you can see what a big task [00:48:13.898] this is, right? But again, [00:48:17.050] if they were Googling, they would have found all [00:48:19.148] of these topics just like that. [00:48:24.059] And here's another one. [00:48:26.898] So what if you don't have time because I, [00:48:29.010] I'm sure some of you are going, that is just [00:48:31.349] time labor intensive. [00:48:33.360] Um, what I do is first [00:48:35.530] when I buy, I, I buy the ebooks [00:48:37.800] once a year and when I get the Mark, [00:48:40.510] um, record download, [00:48:43.239] I drop them all into a resource list [00:48:45.929] to deal with when I have time. [00:48:47.978] That way, I don't forget which titles [00:48:51.159] aren't done yet [00:48:52.938] and it doesn't have to be me. I can have [00:48:55.139] a really good sub [00:48:56.639] that I know can do this. [00:48:58.878] I can have a T A not into Destiny [00:49:01.128] or my OPEC, I [00:49:02.519] can have them do this into [00:49:04.570] a word document [00:49:06.000] and cut and paste a volunteer. [00:49:08.449] So it doesn't have to be you. [00:49:10.409] Um And also, I've already talked to two reps [00:49:12.918] from Gale showing them [00:49:15.119] these slides and showing just how beneficial. [00:49:17.820] If they could do this for us, [00:49:20.449] then they'd be helping all of their customers [00:49:22.760] instead of us doing this individually. [00:49:25.769] So let's hope that this is something [00:49:27.849] that they're going to offer us in the [00:49:29.918] future [00:49:31.449] and that's it. [00:49:33.208] And Connie, that's pretty incredible what you've managed [00:49:35.539] to do. It's, it really is. [00:49:38.010] It really is. We once you, I mean, [00:49:40.610] it's not like it's hundreds and hundreds of [00:49:42.668] books. So [00:49:44.628] sure, we do [00:49:46.780] have one question for you actually in the chat. Um [00:49:49.260] talking about A I, so have [00:49:51.679] you considered using artificial intelligence [00:49:53.929] to kind of um automate this a little [00:49:56.188] bit or just kind of speed it up at all? Have [00:49:58.219] you considered that? [00:50:02.628] That will be for my next purchase? [00:50:04.648] So, I hadn't thought of that until, um, [00:50:07.168] the last purchase my husband had said something like [00:50:09.360] that. And, um, I'm gonna [00:50:11.489] try that for the next f foundational [00:50:14.030] list. Thank you. If you [00:50:17.648] did it for me. Can you believe that? Can you imagine? [00:50:20.550] Hm. Can you imagine if, for [00:50:22.860] instance, maybe it can find [00:50:25.159] it not on an OPEC but somewhere else [00:50:27.429] or something? I don't know. [00:50:30.409] Yeah, I, I think we're gonna have to work on it and [00:50:32.469] I think honey, we're gonna have to uh keep [00:50:34.668] up to date and hear how that's working for you. I think [00:50:36.688] that's, it's great to see [00:50:38.869] how we can get A I kind of working [00:50:40.929] with gale resources, not over gill resources, [00:50:43.219] but with the gill resources, of course. [00:50:46.539] Ok. Awesome. So uh Christy [00:50:48.559] Brett, how about you guys? [00:50:50.780] Um [00:50:52.199] Mine tips and tricks are [00:50:54.309] pretty uh straightforward. [00:50:57.269] I love the editing mark records. [00:50:59.550] Anything we can do to increase that [00:51:01.590] accessibility? Visibility? That's [00:51:03.688] incredible. Um [00:51:05.949] I was thinking just, you know, another reminder [00:51:08.668] to, of course, you know, [00:51:10.708] our Contin area teachers el A [00:51:12.750] teachers, those are our bread and butter, but [00:51:15.269] make use of your counselors [00:51:18.260] in your school. But also think about your [00:51:21.030] um ec teachers or special [00:51:23.260] education teachers because of [00:51:25.360] all those accessibility features. [00:51:27.679] A lot of times knowing about [00:51:30.019] those accessibility makes [00:51:32.300] these very complex um [00:51:34.458] high quality texts [00:51:36.530] feel inaccessible to [00:51:38.679] some of our struggling students. But [00:51:40.789] when their teachers know that [00:51:43.159] those accessibility features are there [00:51:45.360] and can help navigate that's [00:51:47.398] huge and a lot of times that leads [00:51:49.438] to other usages and other [00:51:51.539] um collaborations as well. [00:51:54.059] And [00:51:55.030] my shortcut to almost everything. [00:51:57.639] I love the Gale support site [00:51:59.760] and Amber. I think you're probably gonna share a [00:52:01.769] little bit about that, but [00:52:03.699] I just share my screen just real quick. Uh [00:52:06.438] I want to. [00:52:10.449] So, um, [00:52:12.668] with the [00:52:14.320] marketing materials on the [00:52:16.340] support site, [00:52:17.659] you can browse by type or by [00:52:19.728] product and [00:52:21.369] when you go to [00:52:23.458] buy product and look at your Gale ebooks, [00:52:25.668] they've got all these templates, everything [00:52:28.059] for being able to send [00:52:30.378] emails to search topics [00:52:32.978] to all kinds of things. Plus [00:52:35.369] a bunch of um, digital [00:52:37.909] assets that can be used for social media. [00:52:40.260] So, [00:52:41.199] um, I used some of these for Cameron's [00:52:43.438] collection to make bookmarks that our counselors [00:52:45.878] handed out. So it's [00:52:48.000] just, there's so much great [00:52:50.208] stuff and this seems [00:52:52.289] to be getting lots of updates too. [00:52:54.489] So I'm sure Amber can tell us more. [00:52:56.659] Um, my last tip or trick is [00:52:59.300] make use of your usage stats [00:53:01.898] because [00:53:03.179] it's one of those things that [00:53:05.820] just like you might regularly share [00:53:08.119] how many books you circulated or how many [00:53:10.208] books you added. [00:53:11.739] You know, how [00:53:13.820] much time is being spent in Gale ebooks, [00:53:16.219] how much time, uh, how many searches [00:53:18.409] are being done. Those are things [00:53:20.659] that kind of, wow, teachers. [00:53:23.329] Um And definitely [00:53:25.780] when we're thinking about funding and advocacy, [00:53:28.500] those share, you know, show [00:53:30.769] that we are being good stewards of [00:53:32.898] limited funding. So definitely [00:53:35.369] take full advantage of those [00:53:37.418] stats that are available. [00:53:43.789] Thank you, Christy. Love that Brett. [00:53:45.739] I will support it, but after Brett [00:53:48.019] has his uh his time as well, [00:53:50.329] so, yeah, sure. So I'm going to piggyback [00:53:52.628] on what uh Christy said there for a moment. The stats. [00:53:55.280] Yes. Uh with everybody, [00:53:57.469] right, teachers, administrators and actually [00:53:59.659] a couple of years ago for the first time I put [00:54:01.769] together a newsletter for [00:54:03.800] parents for parent night because the parents [00:54:05.869] come in, they go to the classrooms, but I get [00:54:08.059] just a trickle in the library, sadly, but [00:54:10.639] uh doing the best you can with those that do come in [00:54:12.844] and I would have all of those stats. There was just a great [00:54:15.155] talking point to parents and most [00:54:17.184] of them didn't know what you were talking about, but in two minutes [00:54:19.394] or less, you can kind of, you know, fill them in with their [00:54:21.534] options besides just, you know, googling [00:54:23.954] and, and what we do with our kids. So, uh I love [00:54:26.425] having the stats readily available and [00:54:28.454] they're, they're impressive. All right. Um [00:54:30.800] The other thing I would say, this doesn't necessarily [00:54:33.668] mirror what the others have mentioned, some of the maybe [00:54:35.840] the backroom tricks and tips, but [00:54:38.070] I just keep going back to [00:54:39.889] the functionality of these databases, [00:54:42.039] the ebooks and all of the gale platform. They're [00:54:44.090] just lovely sophisticated [00:54:46.530] tools, right? It's that right blend [00:54:48.610] and it's, it's a great sandbox [00:54:50.739] for our kids to get good at using [00:54:52.929] these sophisticated tools. Right? I mean, they [00:54:54.958] learned how to use a graphing calculator and [00:54:56.978] other things uh in school [00:54:59.000] and, you know, this is kind of our realm and this is what we [00:55:01.019] need to teach them. And, you [00:55:03.110] know, I found so for several years now, we've been taking [00:55:05.280] seniors off campus a number of our seniors [00:55:07.559] to do uh research at a college [00:55:09.679] library for senior inquiry, right? [00:55:11.750] And I, I find that direct [00:55:13.769] correlation between their success off campus [00:55:16.260] and the amount of repetitions I've had with [00:55:18.340] them here, right? Using some [00:55:20.369] of these sophisticated tools again, look looking [00:55:22.530] at all of the functionality in these [00:55:24.789] particular products and, [00:55:26.398] you know, hands down the gale products are superior [00:55:28.898] in that in that way, right? They're just [00:55:30.989] very sophisticated. You, you have so much more [00:55:33.110] control over the content, [00:55:35.260] which once you're in there, you can manipulate the [00:55:37.510] data in a way that you can't in virtually [00:55:39.628] any other environment which I love. And I think, [00:55:41.829] you know, once they kind of get comfortable and confident [00:55:44.159] doing that, that it is such a transferable [00:55:46.378] skill to the next level for a lot of them. [00:55:50.840] I agree. I really, I definitely [00:55:53.628] agree with that. I thank you Brett for those, those [00:55:55.668] great ideas. [00:55:57.119] Um So we are right about [00:55:59.139] at our time. So I do want to wrap it up, but [00:56:01.369] since Christy mentioned it, I am going [00:56:03.469] to kind of shout out the support side, I put [00:56:05.668] it in the chat [00:56:06.820] already. It's just support dao.com [00:56:08.938] and I know Christy showed you our marketing [00:56:10.969] section, [00:56:11.889] but we also have a really great uh training [00:56:14.090] section as well. So if you go to [00:56:16.110] support dao.com/training, [00:56:18.719] uh you also find like webinars and tip sheets, [00:56:20.949] you can send out to your teachers [00:56:22.969] and shorter tutorials. And I know Brett [00:56:24.989] mentioned um trying to get parents [00:56:27.159] involved to get the information out to parents. We actually have [00:56:29.918] uh we call them student letters, I believe. [00:56:32.628] Um but they're really fast overviews [00:56:34.869] about the resources and we have them for all of our resources [00:56:37.909] that can be handed out so parents can read about [00:56:40.159] it. Students can read about it, they can know, [00:56:42.398] oh ge books is going to help me, do [00:56:44.389] you know XY and Z? And hopefully [00:56:46.398] the parents when they get home will say, oh, have you done your [00:56:48.458] homework? You better check out GE books is [00:56:50.978] the goal. Of course, if it happens, [00:56:53.219] who knows, but uh you'll find a lot of that stuff [00:56:55.639] on support.g.com as well. So [00:56:57.719] thank you Christy for mentioning it and Brett for mentioning [00:57:00.099] trying to get the information out to parents. [00:57:02.840] Um and I do have some wrap up uh contact [00:57:05.070] information I want to give everyone before we [00:57:07.099] do kind of hop off for the day. So if [00:57:09.219] you have any questions about our session today, um [00:57:11.239] about getting the recording if you didn't get it [00:57:13.349] or just, I don't know something general about the [00:57:15.478] session, feel free to just reach out [00:57:17.489] to me. It's Amber dot Winters at 10 gauge.com. [00:57:20.869] If you want to talk more about how you can use [00:57:22.898] Gilly Books in your particular learning community [00:57:25.128] and want to get a little bit more specific with it. [00:57:27.478] Reach out to your customer success manager, you [00:57:29.550] can set some time with them, kind of just [00:57:31.780] review your collection where you [00:57:33.840] want your collection to go, how you can get it there. [00:57:36.188] If you don't know your customer success manager is [00:57:38.378] so you can just go to or send an email to Gail [00:57:40.429] dot Customer success at send [00:57:42.619] gage.com and we'll forward you to the correct person. [00:57:45.409] Uh If you want to know more about purchasing [00:57:47.590] ebooks, maybe you wanna talk about Cameron's collection. [00:57:50.039] We mentioned that a few times [00:57:52.438] um as well. You can reach out to [00:57:54.489] your sales consultant. If you don't know who that is, [00:57:56.550] just go ahead and go to support.go.com/rinder, [00:58:00.938] you know, before you'll be able to reach out to that [00:58:03.039] person and they can work with you to talk about Cameron's [00:58:05.179] collection. We also have uh Camp [00:58:07.500] Cameron's collection for our young kiddos, our K [00:58:09.530] five kiddos. So if you're interested in that, [00:58:11.708] you can certainly reach out to your sales [00:58:13.800] consultants. [00:58:14.909] I've also included Stacy Zuzu, [00:58:17.094] who's our senior product manager for Gael Ebooks. [00:58:19.864] Uh, she's actually on the line with us today because [00:58:21.894] she really wanted to hear what's going on with the GE [00:58:23.974] books. Can I hear from the front lines? So [00:58:26.195] if any of you have suggestions [00:58:28.244] or feedback about Gael Ebooks, [00:58:30.503] she wants to hear it. I want to hear it. [00:58:32.744] Uh, please feel free to either email her directly [00:58:35.114] or email her and I or me and [00:58:37.195] I can email her, uh, any [00:58:39.264] way you want to do it. We want to hear your feedback. We want to hear [00:58:41.434] your thoughts about ge books, how we can improve [00:58:43.724] it, what we should keep doing. [00:58:45.679] So, her information is there as well and [00:58:48.168] Connie, it looks like you put your email on the web [00:58:50.360] in the chat, but it went just to [00:58:53.789] panelists. So I'm gonna put it here. So, [00:58:56.059] uh, Connie has. [00:58:58.050] Yep, Connie shared her email with everyone as well. So [00:59:00.059] if you want to reach out to her, maybe talk about [00:59:02.269] the excellent work she does with her Mark records. [00:59:05.070] Um I'm sure she would love to speak with you [00:59:07.119] about that. Um, so Connie's information [00:59:09.570] is in the chat. Um, [00:59:11.708] Christy Brett, you can certainly add yours in there if [00:59:13.849] you would like to. Of course, you don't have to, but [00:59:16.829] feel free to do that. [00:59:18.639] Um, and that's [00:59:20.820] all we have today. So, again, I haven't seen [00:59:22.860] any more questions come in. [00:59:24.590] Um, it looks like Brett is typing into the [00:59:26.739] chats. Um, looks like [00:59:28.780] Christy might be as well. Yeah. Ok. [00:59:31.300] So that won't end just yet. So we'll [00:59:33.458] get there, there we go. So we have their information [00:59:35.739] in the chat. So if you have questions for [00:59:37.938] them that you didn't ask on this session or that you [00:59:39.949] maybe think of later, [00:59:41.579] feel free to reach out to them as well. So you've got [00:59:44.208] a whole host of, um, of [00:59:46.800] people you can reach out to because you wanna make sure that you're [00:59:48.898] as successful as you can possibly be with [00:59:50.989] your ebooks. [00:59:52.719] Now, I'm going to go ahead and end our session today. But [00:59:54.820] first, I do want to thank my panelists for being [00:59:57.000] on the line. The information you just gave us all was [00:59:59.639] incredibly helpful. And I know I have things [01:00:01.809] that I'm going to take from this as I start to work with [01:00:04.030] other schools and other librarians. [01:00:06.780] And I'm sure everyone else who's on the line feels the [01:00:08.809] same way. So thank you for, for being [01:00:11.030] here, really appreciate it.